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Changes on Palm don't flow into kGTD
Tue, 2006/04/25 - 3:33pm — gix2gix
Hi Ethan (and everybody else of course),
some time ago I read a thread where somebody had a problem with changes he did on a palm which did not go into kGTD. On syncing with Missing Sync the changes (like completing a task) synced nicely with iCal but were wiped out on the next kGTD sync. If I remember right, you thought this would be because of Missing Sync not refreshing the TimeStamp but you wanted to look into it a little bit more. Have you had a chance to do it?
What is everybody else doing on this problem? Do you have workarounds?
Thanks for answering. Helge
I have the same problem, but
I have the same problem, but no solutions.
I’m hoping to take a look
I’m hoping to take a look at this over the weekend, but with my AppleScript background, I wouldn’t get my hopes up. Right now, this is my #1 wish for kGTD. I’m hoping it’s something simple in the Sync script.
I am looking at this. I
I am looking at this. I detect changes based on the “stamp date” of the todo in iCal, which, in theory, is changed whenever the todo is updated. I expect that MissingSync isn’t updating the stamp date (I assume this isn’t intentional behavior on MissingSync’s part… I can’t think of a good reason to not update the stamp date). There may be some other flag I can read in the todo after MS updates it (hopefully).
Why does kGTD need the
Why does kGTD need the timestamp? Is there any use for it?
The workaround is: go to
The workaround is: go to iCal and check/uncheck the To-dos (and back again). Voila! kGTD picks up the changes.
Hmm, that’s fine, but not
Hmm, that’s fine, but not really any improved functionality over just going into kGTD and checking items off. What we really want is a way to check an item off on the Palm, then forget about it.
Hopefully Ethan will figure this one out. From his comment, it sounds like an issue with Missing Sync not changing the stamp date when an item is marked completed. To Do items when they finished. I looked quickly through the AppleScript dictionary, hoping there would be a simple boolean for “Done/Not Done” for To Dos, but didn’t see one.
One thing to try — does Missing Space correctly set the completion date on its sync with iCal? The AppleScript dictionary for iCal lists this as a separate parameter of a To Do — maybe that would work?
Ok, my workaround is meant
Ok, my workaround is meant for any changes done in the Palm Todo. If checking it off is the only change, then it’s really not useful! :-)
This is a little annoying
This is a little annoying bug.
I will try to submit to Missing Sync.
BZ
My problem is that new items
My problem is that new items from the palm make it to iSync but not into kGTD. Syncing kGTD just deletes my new items! Anybody else seen this?
Nope. New todos entered on
Nope. New todos entered on the treo make it to kGTD through iCal. Thats not a problem here. But I experienced something similar, when I deleted every category on the treo.
has there been any update on
has there been any update on whether completed items marked on palm are successfully pushed to kGTD. i’m having similar problems and i’m wondering whether i should still keep hoping for a solution or if i should just try to find new software.
i tried to take matters into my own hands and email support at markspace for the missing sync time stamp issue. below is the dialogue:
my initial description of the problem to markspace:
” I am using Missing Sync in collaboration with another tool: Kinkless GTD to manage all of my projects, ToDo items, etc. I have recently discovered that a potential bug in MissingSync has been causing multiple errors in the functionality of my PDA and other software. Here is a link to the forum where others have experienced this problem: http://kinkless.com/node/694 ”
their response was:
” The Missing Sync for Palm OS works to sync Apple applications to the Palm applications. We do not support other third-party programs like Kinkless GTD, which may corrupt the Palm databases.
I can help you to use the Apple applications to the Palm applications that we do support. “
my reply:
” What I’m asking is whether or not Missing Sync updates the timestamps on iCal’s ToDo items. I’m not just having the problem with Kinkless GTD, but with other Apple apps that can’t discern whether or not a task was completed. It seems as if the item is has just been marked as completed while the time stamp on the item has been unchanged. So from an outsider’s perspective, the items in iCal have not changed at all when they reference the timestamp.
Just to add, I came to this conclusion by performing the following test. I complete a task in my palm, check it off, then I sync it with the Missing Sync to update iCal. The tasks is checked as completed but the timestamp is not changed.
Then I take that same completed task, uncheck and check it again in iCal and everything works perfectly again. Also, the timestamp of the task has been changed to reflect when I completed the ToDo item.
Once again, I feel that this not a problem with any other software on my computer but rather the way that Missing Sync operates with iCal. “
their final response:
“Missing Sync for Palm OS 5.1 relies on Apple’s Sync Services. Data exchanges, merges, deletions, time stamps, and other details of the sync are mediated by Sync Services.
Address Book and iCal data is saved in Apple’s Sync Services database. When you sync using the Missing Sync, that data is pushed to the Palm databases. If the Groups/Categories are entered on the Mac, a Reset Sync History is performed, and Mark/Space Conduit settings to “Overwrite handheld with desktop data” are used, those Groups/Categories and other data are are transferred to the Palm.
Backup before your sync. Save a copy of Address Book, from File, Backup up Address Book. Launch iCal, go to File, Back up Database. Do this as a regular practice, and you will always have a previous version to go back to.
Launch the iSync application, and go to Preferences to select Advanced, Reset Sync History. Restart the Mac. Change the Mark/Space Conduit settings to “Overwrite handheld with desktop data”, to establish a relationship between Apple’s Sync Services and your Palm databases. Any time you try a new version of the Missing Sync, or your data needs taming, this is recommended. If you want the data on your Palm to be the same as the Mac, that is what this process does.
If your sync is not successful, send your Sync History, which will provide us with more information. ”
all in all, i really hope that we can find a solution to this soon. this “little” bug essentially makes kGTD pretty useless for me. =.
Hi folks, I’ve just
Hi folks,
I’ve just posted a very quick and dirty Applescripted workaround to the problem in this thread: http://kinkless.com/node/1028#comment-13312 based on stormy’s suggestion in this thread.
Please let us all know if it works for you.
Re: Changes on Palm don't flow into kGTD
f your sync is not successful, send your Sync History, which will provide us with more information. ”
all in all, i really hope that we can find a solution to this soon. this “little” bug essentially makes kGTD pretty useless for me. =.
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