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Kinkless GTD 0.83 [Relative Motion]
Fearing that I might be stoned if I delayed any longer (I read The Lottery in high school… I know mob justice when I hear it pounding at my webserver), here’s the all new kGTD 0.83 release. Smell it. I made it smell like new car. Mmmmm. Shake it. I made it sound like an unopened box of cracker jacks, a toy surprise still inside. Except in this case, it’s no toy, it’s lots of new code and, invariably, new bugs. But I hope that the utility outweighs the bugginess.
Note: If you are not feeling up to experimentation, chill for a bit and see where the chips fall after a couple of days. If you are more of a “let’s boldly go” type, then by all means, beta-away.
But first: Big, big thanks go the estimable Merlin Mann, he of wit, insight and 43 folders. Merlin was a hard core alpha tester on this release and anything un-buggy about it is due to his continued hammering away at it. He gave much time and effort to this project and you should give him a big thankful hug and cigar next time you see him. And to those of you out there that also tested early alphas of this version: much appreciated.
To get started, take a look at the new intro video. It’s just an overview but should give a feel for some of the new features. Also: OmniOutliner Pro 3.6 Beta is required for this release!
Note also there is a new website. Any problems on it, please shout. Oh, and when you are done shouting, email or post, since I really can’t hear you shouting from that far away. The old forum items have been “archived” into an old forum section, but they are still there. I’m starting a new forum since many of the post issues will have either been dealt with or mooted by this new release.
What’s new in this release? See the release notes on the release page for full details, but to summarize:
- Everything syncs: all changes to all columns are now synchronized across all views of a task (Projects/Actions/iCal)
- Deletions now handled with the good old delete key on your keyboard
- Singleton tasks section, now a full citizen
- Better QS action… and fancy “task shorthand” to make it easy to send a task to a specific context/project
- Task aging
And oh so much more. And did I mention new bugs? They are there, but together we will get rid of them, I’m sure. See the “Report Bugs or Issues” section for known problems and to submit new issues or feature requests.
Thanks again for your patience and continued support on this project. Please drop a note in the forums to feedback on your experiences with this new release!
Comments
Congratulations on the new
Congratulations on the new release! Hope to be able to download it soon and try it out.
How do I go about
How do I go about downloading the new release? I can’t find it anywhere.
See the bottom of the
See the bottom of the current release page
There’s nothing there.
There’s nothing there.
Re: See the bottom of the
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Ethan — no link shows up
Ethan — no link shows up for me at the bottom of the current release page….
phew! And I thought it was
phew! And I thought it was me!
No, it was me and my
No, it was me and my byzantine user roles in drupal. Fixed it just now and should be visible to all users great and small… here you go.
Yeah, I’m not able to find
Yeah, I’m not able to find a d/l either… I was just waiting for the link to be posted.
Also, the user registration doesn’t seem to work either… I get an email with a username and password that doesnt work and a URL for someone else…
Woo Hoo Thanks!
Woo Hoo Thanks!
Thank you so much for all
Thank you so much for all the hard work on the update! My work life rests on kgtd and every release makes it a little easier.
Works great! Thanks. I’m
Works great! Thanks. I’m new to KGTD—have only had the previous version for about 3 weeks now. I can see great potential for improving my productivity. I received my copy of “Getting Things Done” last Friday and am looking forward to digging in to that, too. So I forge onward…
well… I just answered my
well… I just answered my own question… on the first time I hit “sync” in the document, I got some upgrade dialogs, so I’m good…
Oops… disregard that
Oops… disregard that previous comment. I had (thought I) posted a question about the install process, but then figured it out and posted the above. But apparently my orig. post never went though, rendering the above nonsensical!
OK … time to mess with this update!
Installation was a breeze
Installation was a breeze with one small exception: I couldn’t find the Quicksilver script in the download. I’m almost there. I will be so productive this week, I’ll be able to take Friday off.
Steve, the QS script should
Steve, the QS script should be installed automatically. You’ll need to quit and reopen QS to initialize it, though, and you might need to recompile the script to ensure it works with the current build of QS (“when betas collide”).
See the installation instructions in the user guide for tips on how to recompile QS.
Nevermind— I’m going to
Nevermind— I’m going to fast:
The direction were right in front of me: “Open the Quicksilver action: ~/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Actions/Send to kGTD.scpt in script editor (just double clicking on it should do the trick, hit “compile” and then save.”
Hooray! Have downloaded,
Hooray! Have downloaded, installed and synched and am ready to explore. Thanks for all your hard work on this, Ethan.
brilliant! thank you so much
brilliant! thank you so much for the new release, everything seems to be working perfectly here :)
What does it say about my
What does it say about my life that a new release of KGTD really makes my day? :-)
Now, if some LaunchBar junkie can just modify the QS script. Hint. Hint.
Doug
Copy the Quicksilver script
Copy the Quicksilver script to a new location, and then replace the following lines:
with:
That’s it. Now you can activate LaunchBar, type an abbreviation for the script (I use ki), hit the space key to enter script parameter pass mode, enter you task and hit Return to pass the string directly to kGTD’s inbox.
All thanks to very clean script code in kGTD and LaunchBar
I am a hard core Butler
I am a hard core Butler lover. Does anyone know how to alter the script for Butler too?
I’ve emailed Peter Mauer (developer), but I thought I might get a quicker response here. When he responds to me I’ll be sure to post the answer here.
Thanks for anyone’s help.
I have a modified version of
I have a modified version of the QS script that works with LaunchBar. It contains code for both systems (the QS version commented out, just switch the comments if you use QS).
More substantially, it contains several feature enhancements. Namely:
1. Prompt for context
2. Prompt for project
3. Add current selection to Notes
Otherwise it’s behaves the same as the standard Kinkless version.
Unfortunately it’s not going to survive a cut and paste here. I’m in the middle of putting up a new site for my software, but in the interests of expediency, you can download it here. Ethan, feel free to put it in the Kinkless package if you think it’s useful.
I’ve updated the script
I’ve updated the script (and now have a Kinkless userid :-). The script now integrates into the >@ syntax better, so that if you pick a context or project from the menu, the task is correctly filed. Also it has a fix for the bug in the original script where Contexts weren’t always best matched. E.g. if you said “House” it might get filed in “Lighthouse” rather than “House”. This version prioritizes matches by full, first letters, last letters, middle.
I’m wondering if you can
I’m wondering if you can help! I downloaded this — and when I run the script with LB, it does absolutely nothing.
10.4.7 and .83
Thanks!! Darren
Why am I getting this
Why am I getting this message when I try to sync: can’t make class OO=# of class OO=S id “com.kinkless.kgtd” of document id “m8Dtp9oiSuH” into type reference
Please confirm you are on
Please confirm you are on OmniOutliner Pro 3.6 Beta and Tiger 10.4.5. If both are the case, please consider sending me a document that is demonstrating this behavior and I’ll help troubleshoot.
I was using the previous
I was using the previous version of OmniOutliner. Now that I’ve upgraded, everything is working fine.
WOW. ‘Nough said.
WOW. ‘Nough said.
Looking great! Is there any
Looking great! Is there any detail on the new singleton feature?
Chris, I’ll detail more on
Chris, I’ll detail more on the singletons feature soon and will be adding in new features in this area as well. Basically, a (kind of lame) way to get kick started there is to make a task in any project or context (or inbox for that matter), and in the “project” column select “!Single Tasks”. Sync and kGTD will create a new “!Single Tasks” project (this name can be changed in kGTD settings). You can also make any project a “Singletons” project by appending an “*” (asterisk, no quotes) to the end of it’s project name. Each task therein becomes a singleton next action and receives a slightly different na color (so you know it’s not a project na)…
It’s always the little
It’s always the little things. Got the beta of Omni Outliner Pro and solved the problem. Thanks for the quick response.
Ethan, You have managed to
Ethan,
You have managed to sate the mob’s cravings with a great feast - until you announce the possibility of another release, that is!
Just want to thank you for all your hard work with the new version - it works like a dream. My productivity has tripled in the last five minutes and, if the acceleration continues, is likely to create a singularity in the space-time continuum that will allow me to get all things (past/present/future) done simultaneously so I can spend the rest of my time GND. :)
James
Great stuff Ethan, my
Great stuff Ethan, my productivity just shot up 110 percent. ^_^
Rishabh R. Dassani
Ethan, the new version is so
Ethan, the new version is so friggin awesome. Thanks so much for all your hard work on this. It is absolutely incredible.
I seem to have lost my NEXT
I seem to have lost my NEXT ACTIONS. I know I am clumsy sometimes, but - any thoughts?
No NEXT ACTIONS section. No
No NEXT ACTIONS section. No iCal sync… When syncing, KGTD erases the projects assigned to each one of my calendars. The result, it does not sync with iCal (it does not write any task to iCal). I don’t understand the use of “*” (no quotes).
Thank you !!!!!!!!!!
Thanks again
Thanks again Ethan…
Followed the upgrade instructions and it ran as smooth as silk.
Loving all of it. And finally beginning to explore iCal syncing. I have a lot of contexts so a flood of calendars. Let’s see how that goes with my iCal .Mac sync. It might make it too much, but I can always have it feed one calendar.
The video was very good. Would love one focussing on iCal and dates etc. The various options regarding input and so on, I saw ‘next week’ as valid… hmmm.
Perhaps a video fleshing out use of the QS script. Is there ways you can do more than just input text? Such as indicate a context and project? Or date?
@TommyW: Try this for
@TommyW: Try this for guidance.
You can also just
You can also just double-click on any of the top-level projects in the utility drawer to toggle show/hide of its sub-projects. Very fast!
Oh happy day. Great Job
Oh happy day.
Great Job Ethan.
Think of all the time I’ll save not hitting the site every 20 min looking for .8
Thanks, Bill
Ethan, Just wanted to let
Ethan,
Just wanted to let you know that I appriciate your efforts here. I’m new to this GTD thing but having used Palms, iPaqs, Mindmaps, Franklin Planners and Filofaxes and having been dissappointed with them all. In the end I settled on OO pro and continued to tinker with it. This I have no given up since your scripts and templates now do everyting they way I’ve always wanted it to, sort of. The only thing to get rid of is the Sync and then you and OO have one intuitive gem of a tool. They should put you on their payroll.
What I will try tomorrow is if I can dump todo’s in my Blackberry, sync it thru iCal and get it show-up in kGTD. I guess that I will have to script something there since Pocketmac puts all BB generated todo’s in Pocketmac. But I’ll let you know. That will close an other loop for me.
Thanks from the Netherlands…. Mazzel
Mazzel, or anyone, Does
Mazzel, or anyone,
Does kGTD/iCal sync alright with Blackberry?
OK - Now you did it.
OK - Now you did it. OmniGroup’s website went down, due no doubt to everyone trying to get the new beta for use with KGTD!
LOL
LOL
Well I’m gobsmacked.
Well I’m gobsmacked. Effing beautiful. Installation so silky… First sync you do does the installation for you, luvly. Everything goes so.much.faster.now, I used to think this was a genius job of Applescripting but that you had to accept that it was beachball slow on occasion. But now, it’s amazing.
And the Quicksilver interface is.. quicksilver. Love the syntax. Getting to the holy land of seamless integration.
For me, the whole deal about GTD is getting things off your mind and out into a trusted place. Then you can be where you are and do what you’re doing. But you have to be able to get things there easily, and trust it. It’s no small thing to achieve those two aims. Just great software.
Oh but, the new vid about usage… it’s a shame to lose that first vid, that was so helpful. The new vid really assumes you know what the whole thing is already, it just goes too fast :). Newbies would be bewitched, but bothered and bewildered. I thought your original vid was just great, teaching people how on earth a software program could implement GTD philosophy. I would suggest just remaking that original vid, but in the new framework, and then adding more vids about uberuser features. But don’t lose the quality of that first vid… it was the perfect bridge from book to software.
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Ethan, I must congratulate
Ethan, I must congratulate you, kGTD is really wonderful. I just started using it today (just ordered the GTD book, just now starting GTD), and I must say it looks great! I might have to end up buying OOP real soon. :)
Maybe I’ve missed it, but is there any way to associate shortcuts to the Sync and Twin Toolbar buttons?
Keep up the great work.
PS: What’s up with the timestamps for the comments showing up between the “so-and-so said,” and the text? I would have expected them to show up above the “so-and-so said,” business.
Easiest way to assign
Easiest way to assign keyboard shortcut to Sync anad Twin buttons is to assign keyboard shortcuts to the Sync and Twin scripts. You can do this easily by using FastScripts:
http://www.red-sweater.com/fastscripts/index.html
The “Lite” version is free. Your scripts will show up in the menu whenever OOP is frontmost.
Here’s a mirror, since
Here’s a mirror, since their download link seems to be getting annihilated:
a link
Ethan, I’m a QS and
Ethan,
I’m a QS and kGTD/43folders noob, but holy cow this is going to change the way i work! Thanks so much for the magic (musicians don’t get code)!
Great job and ‘good on ‘ya mate’!
Ethan, Just wanted to drop
Ethan,
Just wanted to drop a line and say thank you from a long-time user. This release rocks.
Observe the speed-ups in sync time for my GTD list:
You are saving me 2.5 minutes every time I sync. My lowly PowerBook and myself salute you, and will drink to your health! Milk and cookies if you’re ever in San Francisco!
Ethan Thanks for the great
Ethan
Thanks for the great effort!!
One problem I am having and can’t resolve thru carefull re-reading of installation guide, forums and bug reports and a number of reinstalls.
I am upgrading from kGTD 0.75 with OOP 3.6 and OSX 10.45 running. When installing from kGTD 0.83.0 Installer.pkg installation creates new folder “1” at the top level of the hard drive. The various scripts are in their correct folders and subfolders within “1”.
When I attempt to mount the scripts in OOP they are not shown in the Customize Toolbar window. If I move the scripts into the correct folders in the Library folder they show up in Customize Toolbar and I can drag them into the OOP file. When I then attempt to Sync however I get an Applescript error
AppleScript reported the following error: Folder Macintosh 120:Users:davidcol 1:Library:Application Support:kGTD:Includes:Includes.scpt wasn’t found.
Kinkless has grown a bit and
Kinkless has grown a bit and I have some external files that support it. Additionally, there are some cases where the installer is failing that I’m working to fix. I’ll post a user guide page detailing a manual installation method… email me in the time being.
A few people have reported
A few people have reported crashes while upgrading to 0.83. If you hit this I would love to get a copy of the backup document that KGTD created before the upgrade so that I can run this through a debugging copy of OO 3.6 Without this, it will be hard for us to fix this crash.
Thanks!
Er, I should mention that
Er, I should mention that you can send any such test file to us at omnioutliner@omnigroup.com :)
I want you all to know that
I want you all to know that Tim is a serious code god without whose applescript blessings kGTD would not exist. When you submit a file to him you should also light incense as an offering of supplication.
Seriously: OmniGroup (and Tim) rock the house. Big thanks to them for everything they’ve done with OOPro in support of kGTD.
Installed kGTD for the first
Installed kGTD for the first time. Following the video, created my first doc by doing a sync (went fine), deleted the instructions and created a project and a Mac action. When I now press “sync” I get this message:
What might this mean? Thx.
Also, the positive vibes are
Also, the positive vibes are much appreciated from all here in the thread. Knowing that this thing is being used is a huge motivator to improving it!
Any problems with the current release: please do post in the forums. I’ll be sure to follow up.
As an purchaser of now three
As an purchaser of now three Omni products, I can attest these guys are great. Excellent products and fabulous support, a really personal service and endlessly improving software.
Craig. Molto Grazie… Merlin’s site is actually in my daily Omniweb workspace (ahem) but in my excitement over the Kinkless RSS announcement, I went, I installed and I posted without Merlin’s guidance… oh foolish me.
I am stumbling my way into the iCal usage. Which needs be a little careful I think.
I changed my contexts in the KGTD file, I merged Errands and Chores into a, um, Errands/Chores context by renaming Errands the new name and reassigning the Chores tasks into it. When I synced again, I found that I now had three calendars; Errands and Chores and the new Errands/Chores calendars were all present. So I set about deleting Errands and Chores calendars and then spent a while wondering if I had deleted elements in the KGTD file once I synced… Which I would have, if I hadn’t ensured that the various elements in the orginal KGTD contexts weren’t reassigned to the new Errands/Chores context. If you follow…
Ethan It’s all a thing of
Ethan
It’s all a thing of beauty, except…
My completed tasks aren’t vanishing into the Archive after a day. I successfully upgraded from an older 0.75 document.
Steve
Actually, what appears to be
Actually, what appears to be happening is that they’re being copied to Archive, rather than being moved. So they’re in Archive and Projects…
On another note, is anyone playing with the now non-functional Mail ActOn scripts? I have no clue about AppleScript. If I had the time, I’d have a lash at it, but I just don’t…
Ta!
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Sorry, off topic, just a
Sorry, off topic, just a note
Is there a reason that sync does not save the document when finished?
Would save an extra step
Great tool! :) -Scott
KGTD is indeed a thing of
KGTD is indeed a thing of beauty. But I have a problem. When I sync to iCal, all the relevant calendars are created — but none contains any items. Anyone else seen this?
Ethan, thanks! This is very
Ethan, thanks! This is very cool and useful.
Slane, the same thing is happening to me. Calendars are created but contain no items.
Kelli Lewis Slane, I’ve
Kelli Lewis
Slane,
I’ve been having huge issues with iCal syncing with kGTD for the past couple of days… from what you’re seeing to worse. I really want to get this up and running, as it has huge potential - but am beyond frustrated with numerous time-sucking losses of data.
Any solution yet?
Ta.
Firstly, awesome. Really
Firstly, awesome. Really awesome. I’m so grateful for this.
Adding a new project as a Sub-Project causes much bad mojo (at least in my file.) After adding a new project as a Sub-Project and Syncing, all of the items for all of the other Sub-Projects in the same Project disappear. Wow. The word “Project” is starting to look funny.
Also, I seem to have no “Next Actions” setting, no matter what I put in the preference… Adding it manually has no effect either.
Nitpicks, really. Thrilled with the whole thing.
nice update. is there still
nice update. is there still a super-project mode setting? i can’t see to find it.
keep up the great work.
Am I the only one having
Am I the only one having this problem — my document won’t sync. It gives me this error message:
AppleScript reported the following error: OmniOutliner Professional got an error: Can’t make «class OO=#» of «class OO=S» id “com.kinkless.kgtd” of document id “fAgSgN6vq0l” into type reference.
Any thoughts? — Rodney
So what about those of us
So what about those of us who aren’t feeling so adventurous? Where can we download 0.75? I can’t seem to find it anywhere on the kinkless site.
I’m not eager to install betas of OmniOutliner 3.6, at least not at the moment. Due to a recent drive failure (and subsequent .Mac backup failure), I need to re-install some of the KGTD components. Can you point me toward the 0.75.x installer?
Thanks,
—mkb
I seem to be having
I seem to be having inconsistent styling problems (yes, I unchecked Automatic Style Levels before starting).
BTW - This is my first time using kGTD or the GTD method and I must say that I’m very very pleasantly surprised. Thank you for kGTD!
Where can I find a
Where can I find a description of how the new Quicksilver script works? Apparently, I can tell QS where to send text snippets. Is there a Read Me file or some such that explains how the script works? I bet a new user might not even know how to evoke the script. This newbie to KGTD appreciates any hints or help.
Steve
after a few glitches i must
after a few glitches i must say i am actually erm….. getting things done!
kGTD works for because i can see what to do, i am a visual thinker and all singing all dancing ‘organisers’ have the features, but don’t work for my brain.
great release. better than the last. simpler but more powerful. thanks to developers.
chris reed. uk.
Hi Ethan, I really miss
Hi Ethan,
I really miss the rebuild function.
During a sync including iCal it stopped with an error message, leaving my kGTD as well as the iCal task list half empty. Since then I try everything getting both to work together again. Using a kGTD backup document doesn’t work because the deleted tasks in iCal which were removed during the erratic sync now erase the tasks in the kGTD backup document. If I delete all iCal tasks and sync, then all of these will be deleted in kGTD. I find no way of building up the iCal task list from scratch with my kGTD (backup) tasks.
any ideas anyone?
Thanks, Axel
Rebuild can be forced by
Rebuild can be forced by going into your actions section and deleting all tasks in the actions view (NOT the projects view!). Then hit sync and your iCal tasks will be scrubbed automatically before the full sync.
I am new new to kGTD and
I am new new to kGTD and just installed it. I d like to use it with QS. I use PCA kTGD action in QS. When I type, in QS, a simple ‘where are u?’ where is it supposed to appear in kGTD?
Thank you.
This is my first kinkless
This is my first kinkless release, and I see huge potential — thanks for leading the charge, Ethan. I’m having trouble with palm-pilot-created tasks making it to iCal but then getting blown away during the sync to kGTD.
What are the rules that would cause kGTD to delete items coming from iCal?
Thanks! Michael
My inbox does not empty
My inbox does not empty anymore. I would like to have all messages moved to !Single Tasks on synch. Worked perfectly with previous version.
Thanks for a great product.
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hi, how can i contact with owner of this blog? Give me e-mail please , i have a question.
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hi, how can i contact with
hi, how can i contact with owner of this blog? Give me e-mail please , i have a question.
Regards Dr. Tomash Sanderson music blog
Hello Tomash, In the upper
Hello Tomash, In the upper right corner of this web page is a ‘Contact’ link. You will find the information you are looking for there.
Just a quick
Just a quick suggestion….
If I am in the Projects view and I create a new project and set its context to “Work”, it would be nice if all sub-tasks under that project also had their contexts set to “Work” by default. I could still change individual tasks to “Email” or “Errands” or whatever if I wished.
Thanks for the great program!
Also, a bit of a bug… I
Also, a bit of a bug…
Luckily there was nothing too important in there, but people may want to back-up their iCal before attempting this, and check for similar naming collisions. :)
Could you please write how
Could you please write how exactly to use task priorities ?
Should I manually create a priority column? With what values? Numeric/textual?
In short, a small how-to would be great.
Thanks !
Kinkless has been at version
Kinkless has been at version 0.83 for a long time. What happened? Is further development dead? Did you get acquired by google or something?
Just a
Just a guess:
http://blog.omnigroup.com/2006/07/13/not-yet-the-great-reveal/ (5th paragraph!)
i have lost NEXT ACTIONS
i have lost NEXT ACTIONS summary as well..any thoughts on how to get this back? Running everything to spec…cant get the summar working
Ethan, I am loving kGTD just
Ethan, I am loving kGTD just what I am looking for to implement my GTD system on my mac. Question though, what does the Context button (script) do? Nothing seems to happen when I click it, but I notice you put it in the Task Bar in the video.
Thanks Robert C
I see the same bevaviour on
I see the same bevaviour on kGTD 0.83.0 and OmniOutliner Pro 3.6.1 beta 3.
-Kaj :)
Just an idea: Is it possible
Just an idea: Is it possible to have a “Today” header in the left nav that indicates all items by context that are due for that day? I realize that this is a bit redundant with “Next Actions” (which doesnt show up for me on this latest release), but it would be terrific to have a sorted view that indicates all your due actions for the current day—a daily hitlist if you will.
BTW: Great job Ethan, this is a FANTASTIC release!
Hi Ethan, you are (too)
Hi Ethan,
you are (too) successful, admit it!
I don’t know what else you are doing for your money, I am sure you are a busy man. But anyhow, here is what I think: Charge 15-35$ for kGTD (or for online access to the documentation, or a special OO version/extension that only works with kGTD - to be crack-proof), get a secretary, make a deal with Omni about a percentage of each copy of OOpro that is sold because of kGTD (they love kGTD anyway) and spend some time on the documentation, new feature requests and future compatibility with iCal3. Everyone will love you for that and will be happy with kGTD now and confident to be able to use it in the future and you will get what you are worth. Like now it is all hanging up in the air for a bit too long. Don’t leave us out there in the dark!
by the way, thanks for the wonderful product. kGTD really rock, keep it rocking!!!
all the best, Axel
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